When I talked to my friend Rick recently, I figured out Kaminey had become for him and most of his college mates what Dil Chahta Hai had become for us when we were in college. We would quote lines from the film, have hairstyles like Aamir's Aakash, dance like Saif Ali Khan did in Woh ladki hai kahaan and even try and catch operas. Yes, it was that deep. Now, Dil Chahta Hai has stood the test of time and it's still as loved as it was in 2001.
And that's why I think Kaminey is the wrong film to obsess with. I know I am in a minority now. Besides Khalid Mohamed and myself, every critic in the country have hailed it as our Citizen Kane, our answer to Pulp Fiction and god knows what. I even read someone calling Vishal Bhardwaj a better filmmaker than Quentin Tarantino. Hmmm... The audience hasn't lapped it up. Kaminey has doen better than Omkara but that's not saying much. Let's forget the box office, which even rejected a film like Luck By Chance (my fave film of 2009 till now). Let's just take a look at the problems I have with Kaminey and if you disagree, I would love to hear from you. That's why the comment box is there, below.
First confession: I do like Kaminey. It's quite a good watch. There are lovely moments in the film. Some great performances, especially Shahid, Chandan, Priyanka, Amol... I love the background score, which plays around Dhan te nan. And I admire the cinematography by Tasadduq Hussain. It's deliciously dark and super heady.
I think in a film like Kaminey which is basically a multi-character thriller laced with dark humour, every character has to be bloody unique. If you look at Tarantino's films and a few of Coen Brothers' flicks, which belong to the same genre, the characters make the movie.
Just take Kill Bill. Now Lucy Liu is just two chapters in the 10-chapter film. And she must have a total of one page of dialogues. And hoe does Tarantino set O Ren Ishii up? She is a Chinese-Japanese-American who saw her parents murdered at age nine and now runs the Tokyo Yakuza. She has 44 bodyguards who call themselves the Crazy 88. And she is super-touchy about her ancestry and can take your head if you have a problem with that.
Let's move to Reservoir Dogs - Michael Madsen's Mr Blonde. The Daily Telegraph in an article describes the character as "Besuited alpha male, particularly famed for impromptu ear-severing. A charming psychopath who likes to simmer and sit tight. Perks up when obscure Dylan-esque Seventies pop hits come on the radio and has a habit of flicking away cigarette butts just before something really nasty happens. Approach with due trepidation."
Let's tighten it further. John Turturro's Jesus in The Big Lebowski by the Coens. He has one scene in the film and you know everything about him. That he is the best bowler around. That he does a Hotel California jig before and after his bowling act. That he was once a peder-ass and had to go door to door in Hollywood to tell everyone he was a peder-ass!
Now, tell me one character in Kaminey whom you know something about. Okay, three Bengali mental brothers who play around with guns. Well if they are from the underworld, that's what they will do. Isn't it? Mikhail, such an important character in the film, what do we know about him? That he snorts coke. That's it? Yes, that's it. And he is not even made to look different. In fact, in the rain scene, it gets difficult to identify which one's Shahid and which one's Chandan.
The other villains... Lobo and Lele. Okay, one talks less and the other talks more. What else? What else? I can't think of. Can you?
Bhope Bhau... This character was getting interesting. There was some work behind it. He is a baddie turning politician by chanting Jai Maharashtra. So when he actually agreed to take money from Shahid and switch to another party, it really made him slyly sinister. But then he wanted to take out Shahid after getting the money. Lo kar lo baat! Ctrl + z, we call it.
The worst ones? Tashi and his sidekick. That is vintage Bollywood. He sits and smokes pipe. He doesn't like dogs, he liked bitches. Come on!
When you start thinking which actor is good and which actor is not, that means the character hasn't worked. Even if you look at Charlie and Guddu, the stress is mostly on the way they talk, on the lisp and the stammer. There is a back story, there is a dream sequence but you only go back with the 'main f ko f bolta hoon'. That's a stylistic device, not a character detail. Character details are what is totally missing in Kaminey and stops it short from a great film. I am not getting into the complicated exposition, the disjointed edit and all that. Just the characters... they do not belong to the world Vishal wanto create. We all know they are supposed to be 'bad' and they are all after the cocaine and the diamonds and the money but give us the little chewy details. The best scene of the film is when Shahid has to sing his story to Lobo and Lele. And that again is about the speech.
That's why Kaminey failed me. It tells us it's smart but then turns out to be totally Bollywood. For that, I prefer Om Shanti Om. Unpretentious and totally enjoyable.
kaminey is a bakwaas film, too smart for itself.
ReplyDeleteI don't think people are obsessed with the film, they are obsessed with VB, it was the same scenario with Dev.D!!
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't have cared to watch a few of QT's films if i didn't know they were directed by him. Not going into the quality of the film as such, but i surely wouldn't have walked in to watch DEATHPROOF if it didn't have "DIRECTED BY QT" plastered all over the posters!
Yes DCH WILL stand the test of time while Kaminey wont, for dch it was the film itself people went crazy about, no one cared who Akhtar was at that time...with Kaminey its different!!
Sometimes when you admire a person so much, you tend to look at the positives more...QT probably screwed up IB...who knows!! but i surely wont be sitting in the theater analyzing where he went wrong...
Anyone who calls Kaminey the Kane of indian cinema, needs to "watch more films" :)
but is VB as good as a QT or GUY RICHIE?? i say, he might prove himself to be better... with time :)
Kaminey is deeply flawed but it does entertain without compromising in its vision....I can live with that :)
@Anonymous
ReplyDeleteyour statement loses all credibility as soon as you use words like Bakwaas to describe you opinion of something :)
Really nice review Pratimda..Before commenting anything i like to state the fact that if Kaminey was made by any other x/y/z,I wouldn't be so critical.But from a person like Vishalji's caliber,Kaminey didn't please me.The intensity of OMKARA was surely missing in it.characters were not fully revealed.And last to say,am kind of bored of seeing the same gray-dark underworld "bombay" film, the corrupt police,street slang & violence.I may be wrong, but it's becoming monotonous..........
ReplyDeletewrong person to talk to pratim da eheh
ReplyDeleterick!!!! my gaaawd
Kangaroo,
ReplyDeletei spoke to Konkona last night and she said, she hates you...
cheers :)
And that's why I think Kaminey is the wrong film to obsess with...who decides which film is right or wrong film for me to get obsesed with ? u or censor board ? ehheheheheh and if someone can predict which film will stand d test of time n which will not,double wow!!
ReplyDeletei can argue on every point but m too lazy to type so much. so just writing what i thght was d best part of the film. saw d film twice. loved it both d times. for me, its a love story, everything else revolves around d love story of shahid-priyanka n its one of d best love storis i hav seen in recent times. only counted few scenes between d two, not a single dialogue is wasted, every scene is intersting...even just calling up panditji for shaadi is also intersting cz of way ist written and thats gr8 writing 4 me.and then there is d payoff.
also i cant understand why we need to bring QT n CB every time we talk kaminey. and i can bet on one think...if only QT or CB had done lisp n stammer it wud be one more mark for intelligence, here its JUST that. and the stress is not how they talk, the stress is on the fact is how they react to situations.....shortcut or chota shortcut...thats deciding d flow of the story at every point. from d start to the end, their choice n their decision, scratch beyond d surface, lisp n stammer is not just that.
OSO is unpretentious but there is no intelligent writing anywhere in any scene. i also love it. cz its dumb n honest! lets not even compare.
@rusted rick: I am so glad that you have got the essence... It's also shows how much we expect from someone we love and adore. VB rocks, no doubt!
ReplyDelete@debayan: interestingly that's the exact same thing Barkha Dutt said on twitter. yes, it may be a deterrent for many, who don't want to delve into the underbelly of Mumbai any more. RGV's dug deep enough.
ReplyDelete@DPac: So glad to see you here! What do you think of se7en mm? Please come back more often and comment on the posts. Let me know if you want to write about something. Cheers! :)
ReplyDelete@moifightclub: "the stress is on the fact is how they react to situations.....thats deciding d flow of the story at every point" --- genius, isn't it? characters' decision deciding how the story would flow?? LOL!
ReplyDelete@Pratim - my stories n d stories that i love are all about how a character reacts in a situation, thats what makes one character diffrent from other...the reaction, thats what gr8 films r about...the way the character reacts. atleast in my world. let me know what moves things in ur world! wud luv to be surprised!
ReplyDelete@moifightclub: unless we are talking about Roland Emmerich films, don't all movies depend on what the character(s) decide(s)? What's so unique about it? Jai and Veeru decided they will go to Ramgarh, so on and so forth!
ReplyDeleteThanx Pratimda,u got my point.I didn't read Barkhaji's reaction.but i feel the appeal of these kind of films are not creating the same amount of impact upon the viewers as it created in films like Rangeela/Vaastav...may be, time for some change & some refreshing thoughts as we've seen in Khosla ka Ghosla/Welcome to Sajjanpur/Iqbaal..what u say???
ReplyDeleteyes, thats what i saw in the film and u saw lisp/stammer. the reactions, shorcut or chota shortcut, like here goes one chota shortcut...why wud mikhail enter charlie's house, mess with bhope and gets killed...he cud hav ben doing spiderman spiderman outside..only cz thats d character. so ofcourse i saw much more than him n coke! not replying any more.
ReplyDeleteatleast for me, this will pass the test of time cz i saw gr8 writing all over. and d killer dialogue of d decade...mere har jhooth ki niyat sach hai. nobody writes like VB!
btw, this one takes d cake... And he is not even made to look different.in the rain scene, it gets difficult to identify which one's Shahid and which one's Chandan!
Maybe you need to watch it again with an open mind instead of with the Tarantino hangover. I think every character was beautifully etched in the allowed TIME frame. It's a two hour movie for gawd's sake.
ReplyDeleteLook at Sweety, Bhope, Mikhail, Tashi, Charlie, Guddu. We don't need to know their back stories.. where they grew up..who they live with..that is not important. What is imp. is we know their character. We recognize their type. We know how they would react in situations. we relate to them. Who cares about anything else really. We know Mikhail is a crazy, rash guy who is fearless and takes risks and when he enters Charlie's cabin we are waiting with bated breath to see what he does.
Anyway, it is impossible to explain the significance of this movie to someone determined to only look at the surface and not dig deep. Adios..enjoy your mindless potboilers.
Pratim...
ReplyDeleteim here and everywhere ehehe
didnt comment earlier thts all...
but since this one is more of a kneejerk response to other reviews than the film itself and since Ricky baby is soo eloquent these days, i had to say something eheh
Agree with Pratim, the characters don't get developed fully, you dont remember them once u walk out of the theatre.
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